Obama like Henry the 8th decides what is faith. A Limerick.

Obama is doing the Henry the 8th. (1)

“I am the King. I decide what is faith.

And I like abortions (2)

of Baal-like proportions

and orgies galore. I don’t care what you saith.” (3)

(1) Besides his six marriages, Henry VIII is known for his role in the separation of the Church of England from the Roman Catholic Church. Henry’s struggles with Rome led to the separation of the Church of England from papal authority, the Dissolution of the Monasteries, and establishing himself as the Supreme Head of the Church of England.

(2) How else can you explain his insistance that he will veto any bill that has an amendment defunding Planned Parenthood, and is suing the states that do?

(3) The principal pillars of Baalism were child sacrifice, sexual immorality (both heterosexual and homosexual) and pantheism (reverence of creation over the Creator).

Ritualistic Baal worship, in sum, looked a little like this: Adults would gather around the altar of Baal. Infants would then be burned alive as a sacrificial offering to the deity. Amid horrific screams and the stench of charred human flesh, congregants – men and women alike – would engage in bisexual orgies. The ritual of convenience was intended to produce economic prosperity by prompting Baal to bring rain for the fertility of “mother earth.”

The natural consequences of such behavior – pregnancy and childbirth – and the associated financial burdens of “unplanned parenthood” were easily offset. One could either choose to engage in homosexual conduct or – with child sacrifice available on demand – could simply take part in another fertility ceremony to “terminate” the unwanted child.

Modern liberalism deviates little from its ancient predecessor. While its macabre rituals have been sanitized with flowery and euphemistic terms of art, its core tenets and practices remain eerily similar. The worship of “fertility” has been replaced with worship of “reproductive freedom” or “choice.” Child sacrifice via burnt offering has been updated, ever so slightly, to become child sacrifice by way of abortion. The ritualistic promotion, practice and celebration of both heterosexual and homosexual immorality and promiscuity have been carefully whitewashed – yet wholeheartedly embraced – by the cults of radical feminism, militant “gay rights” and “comprehensive sex education.” And, the pantheistic worship of “mother earth” has been substituted – in name only – for radical environmentalism.

Excerpt from: http://defendingcontending.com/2009/02/16/baal-worship-then-and-now/

“Mormonism, America’s Islam” Can that possibly be true?

“Mormonism, America’s Islam” is a book written in 1912 by Bruce Kinney. Can that premise possibly be true?

Let us find out what Mormons and Muslims have in common.

Here is a list of Similarities between Muhammad and Joseph Smith:

– Visited by an angel.  (Muhammad: Gabriel. Joseph Smith: Moroni)
– Given visions.
– Told that no true religion existed on the earth.
– Was sent to restore the long-lost faith as the one true religion.
– A book produced from their teachings claimed to be “inspired by God.” (1)
– Each claimed to be illiterate or uneducated and used this as proof the book was inspired.
– Each claimed the Bible was lost, altered, corrupted and unreliable. (2)
– Each claimed his new holy book was the most correct and perfect book on earth.
– Each claimed to be a final prophet of God.
– Each claimed he was persecuted because of his pure faith.
– Each was a polygamist who had many wives.
– Immediately after his death a fight broke out from among the “faithful converts” as to who would succeed him.
– Both religions have those who follow the “original doctrine” of the founding leaders and like these founding leaders, have been violent, polygamists, and have revelations justifying their evil actions. (3)
– Each has progressive revelation. (“New” revelation always replaces older revelation that became inconvenient to the prophet.)

– Each advocated a theocratic type of government.

– Each rejected original sin and the doctrine of the trinity.
– Each taught a salvation by good works.

– Each taught a here-after with graded rewards for works.
– Both claim Mormonism and Islam to be the world’s fastest growing religion. (4)

 

(1) Joseph Smith: The Book of Mormon, Muhammad: The Quran.

(2) The golden plates with reformed Egyptian hieroglyphics shown to Joseph Smith are nowhere to be found, so no source critical analysis can be performed. The sayings of Mohammad were written down in part, but mostly carried by oral tradition until 130 years later when the Quran was written down and agreed upon by a committee.  No source critical analysis is allowed, since this would blaspheme Muhammad. Contrast this with the Holy Bible. It has received many revisions of source critical analysis, and when the Dead Sea Scrolls were found it turned out that most, if not all claims of alteration were false.

(3) Mormons have turned peaceful, no violent conversion is permitted, but if you want a Temple wedding you have to fulfill your missionary duty. Muhammad started the concept of Jihad, or Holy War. In the Quran it means just that, and according to Sharia Law 1/8 of all your charitable giving must go to Jihad. Many modern Muslims take Jihad to be proselytizing by persuation.

(4) The fastest growing faith is Evangelical Christianity, mostly in Asia and frequently of the Charismatic type.

 

What is worse, Romney and cult or Hillary and occult? A Limerick.

Does Romney belong to a cult?

Did Hillary seek* the occult?

If you are and adult

It is not difficult

You’d rather a cult than occult consult.

*Following the November, 1994, midterm elections, in which the Democrats were thoroughly defeated by the Republicans, even losing control of both houses of Congress, Bill and Hillary turned to a group of New Age channelers and spiritualists for advice. This shocking development further proves our contention that Bill and Hillary are practicing witches, for this kind of action is precisely what witches would do.

The very fact that Bill and Hillary turned to these type of people at a most trying time in their lives further proves our point that Bill and Hillary are practicing witches. Witches regularly practice this type of spiritual activity, all of which God severely and consistently condemns.

Let us continue with our feature story, as Jean Houston and Mary Catherine Bateson get together several times over the next year, to conduct seances with Eleanor Roosevelt. You will remember the stories in the first year of the Clinton Administration, when Hillary confessed that she regularly communicated with Eleanor; stories at the time even labeled these communications as seances. Not only did Hillary admit she talked to Eleanor, she said Eleanor talked back ! This admission clearly identifies these sessions as seances, since an imaginary, creative mind exercise where a person only imagines they can talk with an historic figure, and can only imagine what response that figure might make based upon what is known about them, never, ever involves that historic figure talking back. (cuttingedge.org)

Obama’s 2011 Thanksgiving proclamation vs. George Washington’s 1789 proclamation. A contrast.

 Left: President Obama at second swearing in ceremony in the White House. Notice the absence of the Holy Bible.

Things like that are not important to this President.

Obama’s 2011 Thanksgiving Proclamation: One of our Nation’s oldest and most cherished traditions, Thanksgiving Day brings us closer to our loved ones and invites us to reflect on the blessings that enrich our lives. The observance recalls the celebration of an autumn harvest centuries ago, when the Wampanoag tribe joined the Pilgrims at Plymouth Colony to share in the fruits of a bountiful season. The feast honored the Wampanoag for generously extending their knowledge of local game and agriculture to the Pilgrims, and today we renew our gratitude to all American Indians and Alaska Natives. We take this time to remember the ways that the First Americans have enriched our Nation’s heritage, from their generosity centuries ago to the everyday contributions they make to all facets of American life. As we come together with friends, family, and neighbors to celebrate, let us set aside our daily concerns and give thanks for the providence bestowed upon us. Though our traditions have evolved, the spirit of grace and humility at the heart of Thanksgiving has persisted through every chapter of our story. When President George Washington proclaimed our country’s first Thanksgiving, he praised a generous and knowing God for shepherding our young Republic through its uncertain beginnings. Decades later, President Abraham Lincoln looked to the divine to protect those who had known the worst of civil war, and to restore the Nation “to the full enjoyment of peace, harmony, tranquility, and union.” In times of adversity and times of plenty, we have lifted our hearts by giving humble thanks for the blessings we have received and for those who bring meaning to our lives. Today, let us offer gratitude to our men and women in uniform for their many sacrifices, and keep in our thoughts the families who save an empty seat at the table for a loved one stationed in harm’s way. And as members of our American family make do with less, let us rededicate ourselves to our friends and fellow citizens in need of a helping hand. As we gather in our communities and in our homes, around the table or near the hearth, we give thanks to each other and to God for the many kindnesses and comforts that grace our lives. Let us pause to recount the simple gifts that sustain us, and resolve to pay them forward in the year to come.

 NOW, THEREFORE, I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim Thursday, November 24, 2011, as a National Day of Thanksgiving. I encourage the people of the United States to come together whether in our homes, places of worship, community centers, or any place of fellowship for friends and neighbors to give thanks for all we have received in the past year, to express appreciation to those whose lives enrich our own, and to share our bounty with others. IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this sixteenth day of November, in the year of our Lord two thousand eleven, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and thirty-sixth.

God is not mentioned until the second paragraph, where He is referred to as a generous and knowing God. The original 1621 Thanksgiving celebration is now referred to as a feast which only purpose was to thank the Wampanoag tribe. Nothing could be more incomplete. While they did invite and thank the Indians, the primary object of their thanksgiving was the Sovereign and Almighty God for his bountiful provision.

Compare this 2011 proclamation with:  George Washington’s 1789 Thanksgiving Proclamation Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor; and Whereas both Houses of Congress have, by their joint committee, requested me to “recommend to the people of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer, to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness:” Now, therefore, I do recommend and assign Thursday, the 26th day of November next, to be devoted by the people of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being who is the beneficent author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be; that we may then all unite in rendering unto Him our sincere and humble thanks for His kind care and protection of the people of this country previous to their becomming a nation; for the signal and manifold mercies and the favorable interpositions of His providence in the course and conclusion of the late war; for the great degree of tranquility, union, and plenty which we have since enjoyed; for the peaceable and rational manner in which we have been enable to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national one now lately instituted for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed, and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and, in general, for all the great and various favors which He has been pleased to confer upon us. And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech Him to pardon our national and other trangressions; to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually; to render our National Government a blessing to all the people by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed; to protect and guide all sovereigns and nations (especially such as have shown kindness to us), and to bless them with good governments, peace, and concord; to promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the increase of science among them and us; and, generally to grant unto all mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as He alone knows to be best. Given under my hand, at the city of New York, the 3d day of October, A.D. 1789.

This reminds me of a famous quote from Fiddler on the roof: Chava: The world is changing, Papa! Tevye: [rounding on her] No! [calmly] Tevye: No. Some things do not change for us. Some things will never change.

And so it is: God is still God Almighty and Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever. (Hebrews 13:8)

Thanksgiving without God. Barack and Esther. A Limerick.

Can folks have Thanksgiving and not mention God? (1)

Esther does not even once mention God. (2)

“If I perish, I perish” (3)

An expression to cherish.

T’was Sarah’s and Bibi’s Thanksgiving, Thank God! (4)

(1). President Obama in his Thanksgiving radio address reflected on how truly lucky we are. He gave thanks to the troops and volunteers in soup kitchens and spread it around. In fact, he gave thanks to just about everybody, but not God.

(2)There is a book in the Holy Bible that does not mention the name of God, not even once. The book is Esther (Hadassah in Hebrew). Yet God is everywhere between the lines, just not expressed in words.

(3)When Sarah Palin abruptly resigned as Governor less than 3 years into her term, she went fishing. The press was there and asked her many questions. She claimed the reasons for her resignation were so obvious that anybody should get it. Liberal interviewers are not just anybody, so they kept asking. In one of her answers she said the phrase from Esther, slightly concealed “If I die, I die”. This was too deep for the interviewers, for they do not even know there is a book in the Bible called Esther, and if they do they would never admit it, for the Bible is not something about which they are supposed to acknowledge any knowledge.

(4)In March 2011 Governor Sarah Palin’s arrived in Jerusalem just as Israelis celebrated the festivities of Purim.

Purim is the day Jews celebrate the story of Esther. It’s a very festive day. Kids dress up and food gifts are distributed to family and friends. People are very joyous and there is a lot of singing and dancing in the streets. It’s customary to drink lots of wine on Purim. It is also a day of giving a plenty of money to charity.

Governor Palin joined Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and his family for dinner in Jerusalem on Monday evening; The Purim dinner!

Chrislam, Crusade or Jihad? Or maybe Marx?

The type of belief that Chrislam marks;

It has no convictions, unlike Rosa Parks.

Obama the conman

deceiver and corps(e)man;

His faith is to emulate ChrIslaMarx.

 

A very good article explains the movement:

One weekend in Nov 2010, the Memorial Drive Presbyterian Church in Houston along with Christian communities in Atlanta, Seattle, and Detroit will initiate a series of sermons that have been designed to produce an ecumenical reconciliation between Christianity and Islam. In addition to the sermons, the Sunday school lessons will center on the inspired teachings of the Prophet Mohammad. Qurans will be placed in the pews next to the Bibles. The concept of Chrislam, now embraced by such preachers as Rick Warren and Robert Schuller, appears to have emerged from a program on the meaning of “love your neighbor” at Grace Fellowship Church in Atlanta, Georgia “In 2001, like most Americans, we were pretty awakened to the true Islamic presence in the world and in the United States,” says Jon Stallsmith, the outreach minister at Grace Fellowship. “Jesus says we should love our neighbors. We can’t do that without having a relationship with them.” Stallsmith maintains that a rapprochement between Muslims and Christians can be achieved by the fact that Jesus is mentioned twenty-five times in the Quran. The Chrislam movement has gained impetus by statements from President George W. Bush and that Christians, Jews, and Muslims all worship the same God and by Rick Warren’s reference to Isa (the Muslim name for Jesus) in his prayer at the inauguration of President Barack Obama. Only 30 percent of Americans have a favorable view of Muslims, according to a Pew Forum poll. At the same time, more than half the country says they know “not very much” or “nothing at all” about the Islamic faith. “The recent political developments and the fact that we’re fighting two wars in Muslim countries should sharpen that need to know how to talk to these guys,” Stallsmith insists “We want to find peace, reconciliation around a scriptural understanding of Jesus.” Jesus in the Quran is neither the only-begotten Son of God nor the Messiah who was divinely appointed to restore the House of David. He is rather viewed as a prophet who was appointed by Allah to prepare mankind for the coming of Mohammad. In the Quran, Jesus neither suffers nor dies on the cross but is rather raised alive into heaven: “That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of God”;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:- Nay, God raised him up unto the himself; and God is Exalted in Power, Wise” (4: 157-158) The victim at Calvary, Islam teaches, was either Simon of Cyrene or Judas Iscariot. The Quran mentions that Jesus was born of the virgin Maryam – – not by an immaculate conception but rather the will of Allah and that He performed miracles to show the Jewish people that He was a maseh in the manner of Moses and Ibrahim (Abraham): “In blasphemy indeed are those that say that God is Christ the son of Mary. Say: “Who then hath the least power against God, if His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every – one that is on the earth? For to God belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. For God hath power over all things” (5:17).

Belief in the divinity of Jesus is condemned in Islam as shirk (filth). Paul L. Williams, Ph.D.

http://thelastcrusade.org/2010/11/04/chrislam-spreads-throughout-america/

The Rev Wright’s Church in which Obama was a member for 20 years had a more than life size portrait of Karl Marx in their Library as a centerpiece painting in 2008.

Afghan Red Cross worker,sentenced to die for converting to Christianity freed..

A therapist worked hard in Afghanistan.

He did lose a leg but became a new man.

Among Muslim strife

Christ gave him new life.

He is to be hanged, that’s the Muslim God’s plan.

Afghans face death penalty for converting to Christianity

Right:Said-Musa-With-Amputee-Child. Right 2,3,4 Pictures of Afghan hangings.

Said Musa, a physiotherapist for the Afghan Red Cross, will be hanged in three days if he does not convert back to Islam.

He was arrested in May of 2010 after a television show broadcast a video showing some western men baptizing people in secret.

He was on his way to seek asylum at the German embassy when he was seized and imprisoned. He told a news agency he has been raped and tortured by both prisoners and his guards. He tells of being visited by a judge who told him he would be hung in three days if he did not convert back to Islam.

BC Forums reports: An Afghan physiotherapist will be executed within three days for converting to Christianity. Blazingcatfur comments: Our troops are fighting for the right of the Government of Afghanistan to hang Said Musa. Don’t expect much Hue and Cry from the Red Cross they actively aid the Taliban.

Ad Orientem tells us: He told the Sunday Times: “My body is theirs to do what they want with. Only God can decide if my spirit goes to hell.” Mr. Musa has no legal representation as appointed defense lawyers have refused to defend him and other lawyers have abandoned the case after receiving death threats. He maintains he will remain a believer in Christ and will die for his religion if necessary. Mr. Musa lost his leg to a land mine and has been helping amputees for fifteen years for the Afghan Red Cross. Some bloggers are saying that the Red Cross in Afghanistan will not help him or even try to talk with government officials.

Update : Feb 25, 2011.“An Afghan Red Cross worker who was arrested last spring for converting to Christianity has been released from an Afghanistan prison.

The worker, Said Musa, 46, was released from prison last week “after aggressive international diplomacy engaged Afghanistan’s government,” International Christian Concern, an organization that worked directly with his case, said in a written statement Thursday.

Musa, who left Islam roughly eight years ago, was arrested in May after an Afghan TV report showed locals being baptized and called for the government to crack down on apostasy.

The father of six who lost a leg to a land mine and was working to help amputees reportedly was abused in prison and threatened with death if he did not renounce his faith.

According to ICC, Musa wrote in a Feb. 13 letter that U.S. and Italian Embassies offered him asylum but that Afghan officials subsequently told him that he would only be released if he wrote a statement declaring that he regretted his conversion to Christianity.

“I refused their demands,” he wrote.

Even so, on Feb. 21 an official from the U.S. Embassy in Kabul told the organization Musa was released and safely out of the country.

“We cannot be more thrilled about Said Musa’s release. It has been encouraging to see the international community, including churches, reporters and government officials in Europe and North America, work together for the common goal of freeing Said,” Aidan Clay, ICC’s regional manager for the Middle East, said in the statement. “Many sleepless nights, prayers and tears have paid off.”

The United States Commission on International Religious Freedom, which advises the federal government on international violations of religious freedom, said Musa’s release is a good start in addressing a bigger problem.

“While the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF) welcomes Said Musa’s release, the fact that he was in jail demonstrates the serious deficiencies in the Afghan legal system,” USCIRF chair Leonard Leo told FoxNews.com. “The U.S. government and international community need to seriously engage the Karzai government about protecting the religious freedoms of all Afghanis.”

My testimony on time and space, eternity and the eternal covenant. “The Grand design”.

Here I was, age 32, gloriously saved by reading the book of Matthew and seeing the honesty of  the words “that deceiver” suddenly convincing me that Jesus Christ is risen. But how do I reconcile that with my belief that God is outside time and space, if he exists at all? Not only did I not know the answers, I did not even know the questions.

I started listening to a Christian radio station going to and from work. There was a preacher that came on every day at the same time. “God wrote only one bible, the King James Bible”. He ranted and raved about all other translations and how they were of the devil. I might remember wrong, but at one time I think I heard him say “If it was good enough for the Apostle Paul, it is good enough for me.” Being a Swede I found it puzzling. What about the original language?

As a ten-year old I had heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls and how they had found a complete scroll of the Prophet Isaiah. I got excited. But then I read it was a later copy. Ah well, it was a nice thought I thought and lost interest. But now I did read up on the Dead Sea Scrolls. They were written at about 160 B.C. and had pieces of most of the books of the Old Testament. And there were very few changes. The text had been preserved all these years, and was written before many of the prophesies were fulfilled. This excited me, for that would be possible only if God is outside time and space.

Maybe I could reconcile my beliefs with that of my newfound friends after all. They kept telling me that Jesus is God, but I still found that hard to swallow. A good man, yes, but not God.

The other thing I had a hard time reconciling was creation and evolution. Being a scientist and engineer I was a firm believer in incremental development and incremental improvement, and the Bible talked about a divine action that created it all, just like that. I enjoyed the fellowship, sang in the choir, did all the right things, but I could not witness to anyone except other believers for I had still too many questions myself. But one thing stood out. You cannot get something from nothing, and therefore we could not possibly exist. But we do. How is that? And what does the story of creation in the Bible have to do with anything?

The events of Jan 2011, the shooting in Arizona, affected  me deeply and I decided to finally write down my testimony. But I left out the part of the Grand Unified theory and M-theory for in so doing I would lose most of my audience. For others here it goes. Having struggled with Hilbert space in college and given up once the math required exceeded my willingness to put up with all the levels of abstraction etc. I got excited when they reported the most powerful cosmic radiation ever recorded coming from the Crab nebula. The radiation particles have an energy that contain 1000 times more energy than we can hope to achieve with the Super Hadron Collider. Maybe we can test the 11 dimensional string theory after all? This will strengthen my belief in God (for most it would go the other way, but be patient).

The other thing reported recently is the generation of anti-matter in thunderstorm clouds. There are positrons generated that escape into space. Why is that important with respect to the Bible? It clearly states there was a beginning.

Stephen Hawking maintains in “The Grand design” that the universe arose from nothing out of a singularity. For some reason he thinks that disproves the necessity of God. My take is the exact opposite. It strengthens my belief.

Back to the new Christian. I read the whole Bible, The King James, The New International Version, The Swedish Bible, and Martin Luther’s new German Bible, but the questions remained. Then I took another leap of faith. I accepted that God cares about His creation. This seems to be the overarching theme of the Bible, even with all its bloody parts in the Old Testament.

I agree, looking around you it doesn’t seem that way, but I decided to ponder on the positive rather than the negative. Looking at both my wife’s transformation and my own , decided to stick to the beauty and purpose I started to see in everything once I had made that decision.

So what about the question of time? To my surprise the Bible is full of hints.

There was a beginning of time: 2 Timothy 1:9  He has saved us and called us to a holy life—not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time, Titus 1:2 in the hope of eternal life, which God, who does not lie, promised before the beginning of time.

And of course the most famous of them all: Genesis 1:1. In the beginning

The discerning observer will notice the word before the beginning of time, which is before. What was before? The bible has an answer  for that too.

In Hebrews 11:2 we read: By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.

A little bit later , in Hebrews 13:20 we read: Now may the God of peace, who through the blood of the eternal covenant brought back from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great Shepherd of the sheep, …    If it is eternal it had no beginning, or existed before the beginning. That doesn’t make sense.

Then I read in Revelation 13:8: All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.

In John 17:24 we read: “Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world. In this statement Jesus clearly states that the love of the Father for his Son existed before the creation.

In John 8:58-59 Jesus claims: Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. (KJV)

Why did they try to stone him? Because they understood in saying “I am” which is the covenantal name YHWH, in reality its equivalent name in Aramaic, (the Hebrew name in that time and even today for some Orthodox Jews is too holy to even pronounce)  Jesus made himself  YHWH. This was blasphemy of the highest order!

So there it is. Either Jesus is God or he is a false teacher, a pretender and imposter.

And then there is the spirit, the Holy Spirit. Was He there from the beginning? Genesis has an answer for that too.

Genesis 1:2 states: And the Spirit of  God  moved upon the face of the waters.

Now back to the Eternal Covenant. It must have been formed before the beginning.

But who participated? There were no one to form the covenant with. The only thing possible is if it was made between the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. What was the blood that sealed the covenant? It was from the Lamb slain, that is the Son, before the beginning of time.

In a wonderful way this makes sense to me. God is beyond time and space, but at the same time He is now in both time and space, being omniscient (knows all, past, present and future), omnipresent (everywhere at the same time). As Creator He is all powerful. It was done in eternity, but for our sake, we who are confined to the prison of time and space, it had to be repeated on earth. The only way to do it was to become a man.

Genesis 1:27 says: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. (Note, gender has nothing to do with it, since the image of God is both male and female) But to retain the property of being fully God he had to be born supernaturally, of a virgin.

The Prophet Isaiah (around 700 B.C.) wrote in 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Immanuel means God with us.

Then again in Isaiah 9:6 it states:

For unto us a child is born,

unto us a son is given:

and the government shall be upon his shoulder:

and his name shall be called

 Wonderful, Counsellor,

 The mighty God,

The everlasting Father,

The Prince of Peace.

Unto us a child is born, this points to him being a human being

Unto us a Son is given, this points to his divinity.

And His name shall be called. Note the name is singular and broken into 4 parts.

Wonderful Counselor. This refers to the Holy Spirit.

The mighty God. (El Gibbor) The only other time Mighty God is mentioned is in Is 10:21, and there it is clear that it refers to God  the father, but here it can also be interpreted  mighty man, God.

The everlasting Father. This is Jesus favorite term for his divine father.

The Prince of Peace.  Refers to Jesus Christ.

This is as good a reference to the triune God as I can find in the Scriptures.

Later in Isaiah 53 the Blood of Messiah and the crucifixion is described – 700 B.C. not an after-construction as was prevailing biblical thought until 1948, before the Dead Sea Scrolls were found!

This leaves us with the nature of the Holy Spirit.

Jesus says in John 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

 And in John 14:26 But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.

There we have it. God existed before the beginning of time as God, the Father, as God the Son in the person of Jesus Christ, and as God, the Holy Spirit, all coexisting before the beginning of time. This is the essence of the eternal covenant, sealed with the blood of Christ.

I have decided to accept that. Thus it is perfectly clear that God created the universe out of nothing. It came mathematically from a singularity, the math exceeds my ability to understand it, but I am locked into time and space and can only understand so much.

However I rejoice in the fact that when I received Jesus Christ, I received Him in the form of the Holy Spirit. Just think of it. I have eternity in my heart!

I leave you with   1 Corinthians 13:12-13 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity. (KJV)(Creation and evolution will be another installment in my testimony.)

Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.

On July 4, 1776 Congress appointed Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams ” to bring in device for a seal for the United States. “Franklin’s proposal adapted the biblicall story of the parting of the Red Sea. Jefferson first recommended the ” Children of Israel in the Wilderness”, lead by a Cloud by Day, and a Pillar of Fire by Night…..” He then embraced Franklin’s proposal and rewrote it. Jefferson’s revision of Franklin’s proposal was presented by the committee to Congress on August 20. Although not accepted these drafts reveal the religious temper of the Revolutionary period. Franklin and Jefferson were among the most theologically liberal of the Founders, yet they used biblical imagery for this important task.  (Ben Lossing, for Harpers New Monthly July 1856.)

Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.

Thomas Jefferson gave Ben Franklin the nod

“This is now our Seal

Which in time will reveal:

The Fear of the LORD shows: We are no *Nimrod.”

*What does the name Nimrod mean? It comes from the Hebrew verb marad, meaning “rebel.” Adding an “n” before the “m” it becomes an infinitive construct, “Nimrod.”  The meaning then is “The Rebel.” Thus “Nimrod” may not be the character’s name at all. It is more likely a derisive term of a type, a representative, of a system that is epitomized in rebellion against the Creator, the one true God. Rebellion began soon after the Flood as civilizations were restored. At that time this type of person became very prominent. That lead to the Tower of Babel, and the rest is history. From http://www.christiananswers.net/dictionary/nimrod.html